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Wednesday, March 31, 2010

I am drooling on my keyboard.

I found a reputable dealer in a small town in WA, who with hard work, good pricing, and attention to detail, has skyrocketed to the #1 2011 Mustang sales dealer in the country.

The prospect of walking into a dealer showroom locally and having to deal with the sales pit, and price gauging on the 2011 Mustang 5.0, was not something I planned to do. So i 1st checked the Mustang forums to seek out any members who already ordered theirs and were happy with the price.

That is how I came in contact with Mark Ostroot, Sales Manager, at Price Ford in Port Angeles, WA.

I obviously do not have delivery of my car yet and am waiting along with the other 11,000 + brethren. But so far, Mark has provided me with excellent service, responsiveness to phone and email inquiries, and offered a very compelling price as well as financing.

For respect for Mark I will not respond or share my final price, but i can say there is no "dealer price gauge markup" and it is less than MSRP.

Also of note, I am 3,000 miles away on the opposite coast from Price Ford.  I order through Price Ford > Price Ford places the order to the factory > Factory ships to the dealership near me for delivery.  Mark also will be emailing all his customers weekly on the status/build of their orders once your order begins its build process!!!

Mark is adept with managing orders from out of state, out of country, as well as local customers. So if you are looking to order or just want to ask him questions about ordering, you can contact him. Please note I am not getting compensated for this post, although I wouldn't reject that notion (wink wink Mark). But my intent is to help future car buyers who are interested in the 2011 Mustang have access to a stress free purchase and competitive price.

Mention that the 5.0 Stang Blogger sent you.

Mark's contact:
Price Ford Lincoln Mercury
360-457-3333
email



Sound for the V6 video normalizes after the 1:20 marker



Tuesday, March 30, 2010

I think the V6 is prob the best bang for the buck in the automotive world! Cheaper than the upcoming Hyundai Sonata Turbo (274hp).

Yet the mustang achieves 31 mpg with 305 hp and 280 lb torque!!!
6 speed auto and 6 speed manual.




The car that started it all for me was the 1993 Mustang GT 5.0.  I remember working my butt off on summers and weekends to save money for a $4000 down payment. Then the local dealer had a black/black coupe that I HAD to own.  My wonderful mother offered to help me with half of the monthly payments (which really meant most) and even add to my down payment.

You could imagine, a teenager, entering college and about to be handed the keys to an 5.0 Mustang, would have prob changed the course of my life for better or worse.  But it wasn't meant to be.

I got all the way up to the Insurance, and the dream ended.  Because of my age, lack of driving history, and the Mustang v8, the insurance would have been $8,000 per yr in Queens NY.  Even by adding the car under my mother's name and putting me as a secondary driver, wouldn't dent the rate.

THE END?

But the story begins again this summer.  I have waited almost 20 yrs for this, for Ford, to bring back the 5.0! And boy did they put in all of their soul and passion into this new engine.  My order is in.  I have waited this long, just a few more weeks won't kill me.  I'll just have to read every article and re-watch every video review to no end.

Thanks for visiting my blog to share this sickness for cars we all have.

MO

Photos on delivery day June 28, 2010





http://bit.ly/5_0_Coyote_In_Depth

Thanks to 5.0 Mustangs and Super Fords for going so deep into the technical development and testing!

Editor Steve Turner and freelancer Dale Amy take their first drive in a 2011 Mustang GT 5.0!
runtime 1:42.

1st in cabin real road footage! convertible footage too

Monday, March 29, 2010

The Mustang left early, or camaro left late, on the 1st run. The second was the more equal start.

Watch the Mustang start pulling away convincingly.

This time a follow up to the Motortrend piece...



By far the best sound clip avail on the web for now. No annoying music or reporter's voices to interrupt the sweet rumble of this all new 5.0 beast!

Sunday, March 28, 2010

And Motortrend beats Edmunds test numbers. Quite odd since Motortrend dyno'ed a hair lower than Edmunds.

Excerpts"


"Equipped with the available 3.73 rear axle ($395), our 5.0 needed just 4.3 seconds to hit 60 and only 12.8 at 110.8 mph to knockout the quarter mile. To answer the million-dollar question: Yes, it's quicker than both the 426-horsepower Chevy Camaro SS (4.5, 12.9 at 110.7) and the 425-horse Dodge Challenger SRT-8 (4.6, 13.1 at 108.4). It's also not that far behind the 540-horse supercharged 2010 Shelby GT500, which requires 4.1 and 12.4 at 116.0. In the league of naturally aspirated muscle cars, the new Mustang GT is in a league of its own.

Both its lateral acceleration (0.94 g) and figure-eight time (25.3 seconds at 0.75 g) are superior to those of the our best SS (0.90, 25.8 at 0.80) and SRT-8 (0.87, 26.74 at 0.679). Further, the 2011 has retained the sporty, agile, and responsive sensations that we loved so much in the 2010 GT, and dialed them up a notch. Retuned springs and dampers, larger anti-roll bars, and the aforementioned electric power steering all contribute to improved dynamics. At low speeds, the steering is noticeably lighter than the previous hydraulic setup, but once speeds rise, so too does the weighting, delivering first-rate feel and feedback."


Read more...


Data from Motortrends website:



2011 Ford Mustang GT Premium
POWERTRAIN/CHASSIS
Drivetrain layoutFront-engine, RWD
Engine type90-deg V-8, alum block/heads
ValvetrainDOHC, 4 valves/cyl
Displacement302.1 cu in/4951cc
Compression ratio11.0:1
Power (SAE net)412 hp @ 6500 rpm
Torque (SAE net)390 lb-ft @ 4250 rpm
Redline6800 rpm
Weight to power8.8 lb/hp
Transmission6-speed manual
Axle/final-drive ratios3.73:1/2.42:1
Suspension, front; rearStruts, coil springs, anti-roll bar; live axle, coil springs, anti-roll bar
Steering ratio15.8:1
Turns lock-to-lock2.7
Brakes, f;r14.0-in vented disc; 11.8-in vented disc, ABS
Wheels, f;r9.0 x 19-in, cast aluminum
Tires, f;r255/40R19, Pirelli PZero
DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase107.1 in
Track, f/r62.3/62.9 in
Length x width x height188.1 x 73.9 x 55.8 in
Turning circle36.7 ft
Curb weight3620 lb
Weight dist., f/r55/45 %
Seating capacity4
Headroom, f/r38.5/34.7 in
Legroom, f/r42.4/29.8 in
Shoulder room, f/r55.3/51.6 in
Cargo volume13.4 cu ft
TEST DATA
Acceleration to mph
0-301.6 sec
0-402.5
0-503.3
0-604.3
0-705.5
0-806.9
0-908.5
0-10010.3
Passing, 45-65 mph2.1
Quarter mile12.8 sec @ 110.8 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph105 ft
Lateral acceleration0.94 g (avg)
MT figure eight25.3 sec @ 0.75 g (avg)
Top-gear revs @ 60 mph1900 rpm
CONSUMER INFO
Base price$30,495
Price as tested$39,750
Stability/traction controlYes/yes
AirbagsDual front, front side
Basic warranty3 yrs/36,000 miles
Powertrain warranty5 yrs/60,000 miles
Roadside assistance5 yrs/60,000 miles
Fuel capacity16.0 gal
EPA city/hwy econ17/26 mpg
CO2 emissions0.96 lb/mile
Recommended fuelUnleaded premium















13 seconds @ 110.6 MPH 1/4 mile!!!!
0-60 4.8 Sec, 4.5 with rollout
67.3 mph slalom
.91g skidpad
60 to 0 braking in 109 ft


Test car had the popular 3.73 Ford Racing gears




Now here's a really cool thing: Ford still offers you choices in rear axle gearing when you spec out your new 2011 Ford Mustang GT 5.0. Standard with the auto is 3.15 final gearing, 3.31 with the manual. But you can check off a box on the order form for 3.55 or 3.73 gears if you don't mind giving up a little fuel economy for even better acceleration. A limited-slip diff is standard on all GTs.
Outstanding Acceleration and Braking
Our Kona Blue Metallic test car had the ultimate performance package: a six-speed manual with the 3.73 gear. Out at Auto Club Speedway in Fontana, California, on a very windy afternoon, our 2011 Mustang GT ripped off constant 0-60 runs in just 4.8 seconds (4.5 seconds with 1 foot of rollout as on a drag strip) and screamed through the quarter-mile in a best of 13.0 seconds at 110.6 mph, which is a half-second quicker than a 4.6-liter 2010 Mustang GT.

In fact, that quarter-mile time and trap speed would have been easy NHRA Super Stock Eliminator racecar performance back in '68 when the first 302 showed up. And it's quicker to 60 mph than the last 2010 Chevy Camaro SS six-speed we tested (they run the same quarter-mile), while a new Challenger R/T has no chance of keeping up.
Making the acceleration testing a joy was the six-speed's factory shifter, with tight, short throws and very precise feel. No need for a Hurst shifter conversion here. The Mustang GT's shifter is as good as it gets. And if you're any good at all, you'll be burning rubber in the top four gears, as we did.
Fun? Oh yeah!

Although that is 48 pounds more than a 2010 Mustang GT, the Ford still has a 200-plus-pound advantage over the Camaro and a 400-plus-pound advantage over the Challenger. It also gives the Mustang an incredible weight-to-power ratio of just 8.75 pounds per horsepower. Anything below 10 pounds per hp is what racecar fabricators strive for.
Making the acceleration testing a joy was the six-speed's factory shifter, with tight, short throws and very precise feel. No need for a Hurst shifter conversion here. The Mustang GT's shifter is as good as it gets. And if you're any good at all, you'll be burning rubber in the top four gears, as we did.  Read more...





2011 Mustang 5.0 (4th gear pull, 15% powertrain loss)
Claimed horsepower: 412 hp @ 6500 rpm
Claimed torque: 390 lb-ft @ 4250 rpm
Actual horsepower: 435 hp 6500 rpm
Actual torque: 404 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm

2011 Mustang V-6 (3rd gear pull, 15% powertrain loss)
Claimed horsepower: 305 hp @ 6500 rpm
Claimed torque: 280 lb-ft @ 4250 rpm
Actual horsepower: 308 hp @ 6700 rpm
Actual torque: 287 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm

"The Mustang 5.0 is certainly the most impressive with 435 horsepower - if you can believe it, that figure put its well over the top of both the Camaro SS and Challenger SRT-8. Even though the difference between Ford's claim and what we discovered is not as great, the Mustang V-6's output is no less impressive - especially when you consider its claimed 31 mpg on the highway.

Of course, the best news we discovered on Friday we can only hint at. We believe those dyno figures just have to be accurate, given the outrageous numbers these two 'Stangs threw down at our test track. But you'll have to check back with us bright and early Monday morning to find those out... " Link

Edmunds was gracious enough to be the 1st publication to share their results when they snuck a 5.0 to a Dyno to test Fords 412hp claim.  Looks like Ford is delivering us Mustang fans a 5.0 that is every bit as worthy of the predecessor and the Mustang heritage.



Excerpts:
You see, the Mustang GT's newfangled all-aluminum DOHC 5.0-liter V8...it makes some power. A lot of power, actually.
Peak numbers are 365 lb-ft of torque at 4,350 rpm and 395 hp at 6,600 rpm. All of these at-the-wheels figures were obtained in 4th gear on a Dynojet 248 chassis dyno and include a 3% SAE weather correction factor.
Driveline loss for a solid axle-equipped car like the Mustang is typically 11-13%. This is a bit less than the usual 15-18% you'd expect on an IRS car, as solid axles have fewer power-sapping U-joints in their driveline. Hence, we should expect to see about 358-367 rwhp from this car.
There was some controversy on the gear that Edmunds chose to use for testing.  One of the readers commented that the numbers were too exaggerated since they didn't use a 1:1 gear.  I present to you both arguments. You can decide your own opinion.

rrocket says:
08:41 PM, 03/24/10

Ummmm.....no wonder why the HP was higher than expected, you knuckleheads dynoed it in the wrong gear! As per Ford, 4th gear ratio is 1.32:1 Everyone who runs a dyno knows you should dyno with a 1:1 ratio, which in this case is FIFTH gear. Doh!!!
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Jason Kavanagh replied to comment from rrocket
10:14 PM, 03/24/10
The Dynojet itself doesn't care what gear the car's in. Remember, there's a final drive gear reduction after the transmission, which further alters the wheelspeed - engine speed relationship beyond what the transmission does, so there's nothing magical about 1:1.
In fact, dynoing in a gear that's 1:1 usually results in a hair less (yes, less) driveline loss as its a more (the most) efficient ratio in the gearbox. That's why a lot of dyno operators like the 1:1 ratio. Plus, when using an inertia dyno like a Dynojet, higher gear ratios have a lower rate of acceleration, so less power is soaked up in accelerating the rotating masses, which further props the numbers up.
Higher gears do tend to result in higher tire losses since the wheelspeed is higher... at this point all you're doing is trading off one loss mechanism for another. Generally, though, what I've seen come out in the wash is that on an inertia dyno, higher gears will result in higher numbers than lower gears.
Furthermore, higher gears also load the engine for a longer duration, requiring more cooldown, plus put more heat stress on driven tires. As the dyno operator, I don't like either of those things.


But one thing is for sure, the 2011 GT will produce more power than the claimed 412hp and 390 lb torque.  While weighing hundreds of pounds lighter than the V8 Camaro and even the V8 M3.  This is going to be one unforgettable summer for us who are awaiting delivery.









The news is starting to trickle out.  I cannot wait for the avalanche of great news tomorrow.
Journalists alternately lined up to drive both cars trying different launch techniques, and when the dust settled, every scribe to a man (and woman) had a fistful of timeslips to prove that the Mustang was faster—and by a substantial margin. Yeah, even the Mexicans, who had no “horse” in the race. My best ET in the Camaro was an 8.82 at 83 mph—which turned out to be one of the best for the day. Not bad, but in the Mustang, I managed an 8.62 at 86 mph. In the theoretical quarter-mile—and given the traction limitations of the airport’s untreated surface (and no water and no burnouts allowed)—that’s roughly 13.80 for the Camaro and 13.50 for the Mustang. Other journalists faired similarly. But the plot thickens. Read more...
This article eludes to what I think to be Edmunds/InsideLine, sneaking off with a 5.0 to dyno the now infamous 395 wheel horsepower results they achieved.

 

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